END-TIME NOSTRADAMUS SERIES (10) THE PAST PRESENTS THE COMING TIMES
featuring IX 75 II 78 IX 91 V 90 V 27 I 73 III 64 III 97 (and III 31 and III 77)
The following quatrains and references describe dire events that were or may yet be, all of them man-made. Iran and Turkey feature frequently as does Greece.
1568 Lyon Benoist Rigaud
De l’Ambraxie & du pays de Thrace, Peuple par mer mal & secours Gaulois, Perpetuelle en Prouence la trace, Auec vestiges de leur coustume & loix.
From the Ambracian Gulf and the territory of Thrace,
People in suffering cross the sea, help from Gaul,
The cultural thread ever runs through Provence with its vestiges of their customs and laws.
Nostredame grew up in Provence in the Kingdom of France, with its North-East Spanish and South-West Italian influences.
Line 1, Ambracia and Thrace are terms from antiquity. In modernity we look at Bulgaria, Greece and Turkey. Debatably these are along the political edge of today’s South-Eastern Europe. Apparently Thrace was the first place ever to be known as ‘Europe’, and ironically it is now a region within Greece. We are obviously concerned with coastlands and so this seems to be the Balkan Peninsula including among other embayments the Aegean Sea (there has been a well-known immigrant pool at the Isle of Lesbos recently) plus the Sea of Crete (which bounds the Southern edge of the Cyclades) and the Ionian Sea which opens out to the Mediterranean.
Line 2, OF ‘mal’ has a great range of interpretations all negative:
Whatever is contrary to the health or well-being of persons or to a good state of affairs or to justice, law or morality.
All types of suffering. What is harmful or wicked.
Punishment, calamity, damage, misfortune, a difficulty, a wrong, a fault, a discomfort. One who causes these things to happen.
A socially inferior person.
Someone or something bad-to-evil.
But if this were the somewhat similar substantive ‘mât’, mast, it would then re-render Line 2 as people under the mast at sea with (undefined) help from France.
Line 2, OF ‘secours’ was once a pouch or pocket attached to a Crusader’s outfit between waist-belt and knee. There were other specific meanings for OF ‘secours’ attaching to religion and romantic love. More likely than these diversions is that it means succour, help, assistance and comfort in times of need, sickness and danger.
The First Couplet of Nostradamus Quatrain IX 75 is a statement, Are these the ancient and mysterious sea-peoples of the Eastern seas, considered evil – plus help from the Gaulois Celts who once covered a large part of the landmass from the Atlantic to the Med? (Although today Gaul would mean France or at a stretch the Franco-German European Union.)
Otherwise this is the immigrant crisis currently occupying Europe. Surprisingly – as we are told that they seem to be mostly young males so far – this quatrain does not feel unsympathetic to the French-EU aid for these sea-crossing people and it even claims some distant affinity to their cultures (which were rather piratical and invasive in Nostredame’s day) or else the Second Couplet refers instead to Gallic customs and laws. Either interpretation will resonate to a degree.
Alternatively (i) the old Celtic conglomerate Gaulois/French-Gaulois is the past subject of the Second Couplet, or (ii) this quatrain describes a future event where a plague of sorts (‘mal’ in its meaning sickness) grips Greece or Turkey and they take to the seas and (iii) the long-lasting cultural traces mentioned could then perhaps be a prediction.
Possibly it may not be sea-people or voyagers who are affected here but people who have become afflicted by the sea itself – emigrants from Greece and Macedonia forced over to helpful France because of a sea-borne inland disaster – though why not Italy which is somewhat nearer? Is Italy to be stricken from the sea as well?
(See the section on Nostradamus Quatrain IX 31 in the Article POVERA ITALIA! MAGGIO 2012 )
N.B. Many would-be Euro-immigrants have drowned in recent years, the number is at least 1200 to-date and growing. The EU is an obvious destination and by sea this likely involves the French Mediterranean coastline. France has proved especially desirable as it is a secular country with a long history of North African and Middle Eastern students and settlers.
Is France well-inclined towards the refugee migrants of the Twenty-First Century?
France has been ripening the roots movement known as ‘communauturisme’, or communitarianism, which may or may not tend to provoke social friction towards any new and identifiable group as much as it does this between most existing groups. The same with other EU countries. (By contrast the urge to jihadism has crossed all Moslem social stations.) The elected government of Germany has allowed excess immigration in the face of engineered tragedy even to the point of becoming unlikely to win the next national election. But so have the governments of other West European unionist states. (Who put them up to it?)
France, on the other hand, has even been sending some Moslem re-settlers back to Italy.
Certainly Europe is stable and has grown a tradition whereby it helps disadvantaged citizens but it is thought that local agitators and agents abroad are painting ridiculous pictures of ready money and a life of ease that is waiting for the downtrodden refugees if they pay up and take a chance. Further there have been no UN or other bases, up to now, either in or near the afflicted countries to process the would-be migrant applications at a distance.
It seems there is a hidden hand behind IS butchery, promoting terror as an end in itself. Is that same hidden hand also provoking yet further acts of inhumanity between disparate social tribes, knowing that the peoples of the West will lose all attachment to their globalized puppet leaders the more these scenarios continue to be driven-up country-by-country? More wars to come?
1555 Lyon Bonhomme
Le grand Neptune du profond de la mer
De gent Punique & sang Gauloys meslé,
Les Isles à sang, pour le tardif ramer:
Plus luy nuira que l’occult mal celé.
Line 2, OF ‘Punique’ is Punic but as usual it depends on what or who the adjective is referring to. There were the Carthaginians from ancient Carthage who occupied what is today called Tunisia. But these North Africans originated from Phoenicians and Berbers. Line 3, OF ‘pour’, or for, is a link word rooted in the Latin ‘pro’, forward, purpose, cause. It could also mean ‘because of’. OF ‘ramer’ was to propel across water with oars, a pole or a sail. OF ‘tardif’ is tardy or belated. Nostredame could be suggesting that they set sail sometime after what might rightly have been expected of them.
Line 4, OF, ‘nuire’ is to bring material or moral harm to another. OF ‘occult’ meant, literally or figuratively what was secret or hidden, including ‘hidden in plain sight’, or else he who would conceal his true self. Secreted or reserved. OF ‘celé/celer’ was similar in meaning to OF ‘occult’, e.g. to hide what is known, to keep a secret especially about one’s relationships or relatives. Basically it is to conceal, including one’s feelings or another’s identity. It can also mean to be discrete, to shut up or to conceal something that is both hidden and unintelligible including a matter of the supernatural. (Curiously, modern Eng. increasingly applies the word ‘occult’ to this meaning.)
Out of interest, there is a very similar word OF ‘calé/caler’ that can mean to lower or bring down the sail or to drop anchor. It has also the general meaning ‘to calm down’.
The great Neptune of the true deep
Mixes OR mingles the blood of the Gall with the North African,
The Isles bloodied, as the push across the sea comes late:
That which evilly conceals OR becalms will do more harm.
1568 Lyon Benoist Rigaud
L’horrible peste Perynte & Nicopolle,
Le Chersonnez tiendra & Marceloyne,
La Thessalie vastera l’Amphipolle,
Mal incogneu & le refus d’Anthoine.
Line 1, OF ‘Perynte’ is Perinthus, ancient Heracles (in modern Turkey). OF ‘Nicopolle’ is Nicopolis the capital of Roman Epirus (in modern Greece) which was founded to honour the defeat at sea of Antony and Cleopatra by Caesar Augustus (the Battle of Actium, a promontory on the Ionian Sea). That marked the beginning of Roman naval supremacy in the whole of the Mediterranean and beyond which was to last for 300 years.
Line 2, OF ‘Chersonnez’ would be Chersonesus/Cherson an ancient Greek colony on the Crimean Peninsula, Black Sea. OF ‘Marceloyne’ would appear to be the proper noun Marceline but is always translated as Macedonia by Nostradamus researchers generally, which makes sense in this context.
Line 3, OF ‘vaster’ is difficult to trace. I suppose it could hold a place somewhere between OF ‘vassal’, a seigneur who holds lands as a tenant, and OF ‘vestir’, a verb which in a feudal sense could mean to put one in possession of a fief. OF ‘vas’ is the same as OF ‘ves’ and OF ‘vers’ and means either to go towards or to go against. During the bustle of hot-print dictation could this ‘vastera’ have been a misheard ‘vas terra’? Or could ‘vastera’ be derived from OF ‘dévaster’ which is similar to ‘se déverser’ and ‘se jeter’, i.e. to cast itself around or tempestuosly fling itself or just to dump itself.
OF ‘Ampipholle’ would appear to be Amphipolis, once Alexander the Great’s naval base to the East of Thessaloniki. (Alexander’s mother Olympias is said to have been a member of the fearful female cult of Dionysius at Amphipolis and it seems she may have been entombed there.) It is supposed entirely possible that the early Greek Christians having no churches of their own had worshipped in the old temples originally dedicated to Alexander the God.
in Egypt, St. Athanasius was chosen for the See of Alexandria by the Orthodox Church. Considering himself unworthy to be the Archpastor of the Alexandrian Church he refused. The populace insisted and he succumbed which led to over four difficult decades confronting the prominent Arian Heretics before he died encumbent. Is this ‘Anthoine’?
He is separated by time and space from Alexander and Olympia’s Macedonia. So is famous Cleopatra, a Macedonian Greek and a possible descendant of Alexander, whose famous lover was Mark Antony (Marcus Antonius).
Mark Antony surely met with some rebuttals in his life and ultimately refused his own earthly future by committing suicide.
As a Roman Tribune his person was effectively sacrosanct and it was an illegal act to manhandle him and to refuse to recognize the overweening authority of his lofty position which was exactly what Lentulus did by having him forcibly ejected from the Senate which in turn gave Julius Caesar the reason he needed to enter Rome with his Army. Was this ejection ‘the refusal of Antony’?
Whatever, this mysterious ‘Anthoine’ is not granted his wish or else he refuses something and this matter is accompanied by an unknown or unknowable bad influence.
The horrific epidemic of Perinthus and Nicopolis,
Grips Cherson on the Crimean Peninsula and Macedonia:
It devastates Thessaliki-Amphipolis,
(OR Thessaly makes a fiefdom of Amphipolis)
A malady unknown, and Anthoine’s refusal.
The First Couplet sets geographical limits to a widespread health disaster. The Second Couplet may contain its time-marker. (Although the place names are all in the past the quatrain’s vision may yet prove to be one for the future.)
Dans les cyclades en Perinthe & Larisse,
Dedans Sparte tout le Pelloponesse;
Si grand famine, peste, par faux connisse,
Neuf mois tiendra & tout le cherrouesse.
The Cyclades are Greek islands; Perinthus is in Thrace, and
‘Larisse’ is modern Larissa, major city of the Thessaly region in Greece. Its Bishop was present at the Council of Nicaea in 325AD (as was Athanasius). Sparta is in the Peloponnese Peninsula region, the South of Greece.
Line 3, OF ‘connise’ might well be ‘connissez’ from the OF verb ‘connoistre’ (connaître) meaning the apprehending of something for which knowledge and information is on hand or to possess some competence at a matters: knowledge/knowing. Academically, it is to apprehend one thing among others by specified properties and connecting these to book knowledge. Practically, it is to know something inherently well, i.e. from experience. In human relations it is to be aware of some connection with a person, i.e. recognition. In Science it suggests the continuing study of a thing.
It is the latter meaning that is most worrying here. Our over-funded and data-driven computerizations and probability-based experimentations can reach beyond ready comprehension by the experimenters. Even a lack of full understanding of hygiene and bacteria, passing the buck on radiation spills or a second-rate virus enclosure could render Earth or Space uninhabitable by future human beings. And to say “I know” when you really mean “I have successfully acquired second-hand knowledge from those who did derive it from direct experience” is to promote a socially distorting truth-gap as dangerous by degree as total ignorance or misinformation.
Line 4, ‘cherrouesse’ appears to be the same as ‘céruse’ or ‘cruse’ from Latin ‘cērussa’ and Greek ‘kēroessa’, a white lead pigment, lead carbonate, a dry colouring agent which will mix with liquid to make paint. The sometime pharmacist Michel Nostredame would know that this was used dryish in cosmetics to conceal and oppositely in woodworking to bring out the grain of a surface. It was basic to Renaissance oil painting and even today it may kill some unfortunate artist who mishandles it. Apparently it is a toxic killer and on a huge scale when used in ignorance or with misleading informations by an entire region.
In the Cyclades in Perinthus and Larissa,
In Sparta and all the Pelloponess;
Such great famine and disease through a false understanding,
It takes hold for nine months and all through white lead pigment.
However, white lead pigment has been widely used elsewhere including in Elizabethan England where skin-whitening was a part of feminine beauty. It was mixed with vinegar. Although the dangers to both skin and internal organs of active whitening ingredients have been identified the practice continues to this day around the world and now utilizes mercury. Nano ingredients – so small they can move around the body like cartoon ghosts passing through walls – are in use in pharma beauty products and skin creams. No-one can say where this will lead us.
Par feu & armes non loing de la marnegro,
Viendra de Perse occuper Trebisonde :
Trembler Pharos Methelin, Solalegro,
De sang Arabe d’Adrie couuert onde.
Not far from the Black Sea,
They will come from Persia to take possession of Trebizond/Trabzon by fire and arms:
Be Frightened Pharos Methelin, Solalegro,
Arabian blood courses over the Adriatic.
(See the website Trebizond in the Twenty First Century )
The Greek-Phrygian, Armenian and Iranian languages have some similarities we are told. Persians/Iranians do not in any way consider themselves Arabs of course and a fearful folk memory of the incursive Persian Empire seems to colour Gulf State geopolitics generally while Israel has named it as a great threat to them (as have the United States of course).
The progress of Trebizond started with the Greek colonies around. After the Empire of Trebizond – the last Greek empire – it became Turkish ‘Trabzon’ an important Ottoman Black Sea port. Suleiman the Magnificent lived there. It has seen Franks, Mongols, Crusaders and Seljuks/the rise of Venice, the fall of Constantinople. Safavid Persian Moslem Shaikh Junayd (d.1460) a Safaviyya master who changed ascetic Sufis into a militarized movement, fought with the Christians of Georgia and Trebizond in 1447.
Pharos appears to be a small island located in the Nile Delta. Alexander the Great founded Alexandria opposite this Pharos in 332 BC. The Lighthouse of Alexandria was sometimes called the Pharos of Alexandria. Methelin is a name that means honey wine. Sounds delicious but this quatrain must intend Mytilene instead. Solalegro sounds a lot like Sol Allegro (‘allegro en sol’) but most likely is an odd place-name, past or future.
Line 4. In OF ‘Adrie’, presumably intending the Adriatic, would have had the same pronunciation as ‘Hadrie’, actually Hadrian the Roman Emperor (who gets a couple of quatrain entries in the Article END-TIME NOSTRADAMUS SERIES (4) Q’RANIC CONCEPTS)
Line 4, OF ‘onde’ seems a relative of the English word ‘undulate’. It’s a wave, a flood, flux, an abundant flow or simply to be afloat.
France à cinq parts par neglect assaillie
Tunys, Argiels esmeuz par Persiens,
Leon, Seuille, Barcelone faillie
N’aura la classe par les Venitiens.
Line 1, OF ‘à’ is probably being used in its very old sense of indicating relationship.
Line 2, OF ‘esmeuz’ is from OF ‘esmouvoir’ in the sense of to incite someone to something.
Through the neglect of France five associates attack Tunis and Algiers incited by the Persians,
Leon, Seville, Barcelona fail
And will not have the Venetians on their side.
Invasion, ethnic brutality and the death of refugees who rushed to board overcrowded ships and clung to open boats are nothing new to the Eastern Mediterranean.
For instance in 1261 Constantinople was captured by the pro-Byzantium Emperor of Nicaea whose henchman persuaded the guards to open the gates (and proceeded to burn down the Venetian quarter in the city in revenge for the ill-fate of Genoa) so re-establishing the Byzantine Empire. Venetians captured in Constantinople were blinded and many who escaped then died in overcrowded ships headed for the Venetian Empire’s colonies in the Aegean. Those were days of constantly competing empires and their alliances. At its height the great Byzantine Empire ranged over all or parts of Asia Minor, the Balkans, the Black Sea region, the Mediterranean, the Near East and North Africa. It certainly shielded Europe from the unwanted attentions of Arab, Avar, Persian, Russian and Seljuk invaders.
The Greek Christians and the Moslem Turks were continually mounting sea battles and this gave birth to Greek Fire a propelled and seemingly self-igniting gaseous liquid. (See the Nostradamus Quatrain IX 100 FIRE AT SEA ) The true Greek Fire was a Byzantininian invention and the formula so closely guarded that it remains unknown to this day. Nostredame mentions this horrific deadly rain that gets hosed over men and machines elsewhere in the Centuries.
In modern times sea battles have become of far-reaching strategic importance and are often planned well in advance. Consequently there are much fewer than before. But we have high numbers of fleeing or economically-inspired boat-people instead and sometimes in conflict with European coastguards whereby fire-fights might develop. The people-smugglers probably care little about anything but profit (in common with some bigger shipowners it should be said) and overcrowd their inadequate open vessels.
The Mediterranean Ocean – on its Eastern waters in particular – continues to be a Lake of Death.
Le chef de Perse remplira grands Olchades
Classe trireme contre gent Mahometique,
De Parthe & Mede, & pilliers les Cyclades,
Repos long temps au grand port Ionique.
The chief of Persia will occupy all the great Olcades,
Triremes grouped against the Mahometans,
Parthia and Media, and the pillars of the Cyclades,
A long spell of inactivity at the great Ionian port.
Line 1, the ‘Olcades’ were a tribe and so I guess we are supposed to take this name to define their Iberian homeland as well. This word makes a rhyming pair with Cyclades – for which it might seem hard to find a pertinent rhyme otherwise.
Who is this Chief of Persia? How will he occupy all of the lands of an ancient tribe (ruled over by Gallic aristocracy, apparently) in the South-Eastern Iberian Peninsula? Maybe there was another and different group of ‘Olcades’, beyond my research resources, after all.
Line 3, OF ‘triremes’ were triple-deckers, a later advance in the oar-propelled war-boats of the Mediterranean.
The Second Couplet reads like a kind of rear-facing progress report by a time-travelling historian and may contain information previously unknown.
Le tiers climat sous Aries comprins,
L’an mil sept cens vingt & sept en Octobre,
Le Roy de Perse par ceus d’Egypte prins,
Conflit, mort, perte, à la croix grand opprobre.
At the third climate under Aries,
In October of the year 1727,
The King of Persia taken by the ones of Egypt,
Conflict, death, damnation, great opprobrium is heaped upon ‘the Cross’.
Line 1, OF ‘climat’ has various meanings ranging from a paced ground area (equivalent to 60 x 30cm square) to an atmospheric condition to the regions as defined metonymically by their climates. Astrology, though, had its own technical definition: the habitable space between circles parallel to the terrestrial equator (7 in total under Medieval cosmography). Therefore this line could mean latitudes ‘Climate III’ or ‘Region III’ or the surface area ruled by Aries according to lost texts once used by Michel to locate his astrological observations geographically.
(See the Article NOSTRADAMUS GEOGRAPHY)
OF ‘comprins’ can mean to seize, take, perceive a design, discern, understand, take into account, summarize, conceive, indulge in and enclose – from inclusions to superimpositions.
Line 3, OF ‘ceus’ was (up to the Fifteenth Century) OF ‘cil/cel’ being the demonstratives ‘this, these, those’ or else is the same as OF ‘Iceux’, the one(s).
OF ‘prins’ is from OF ‘prendre/prehendere’ mainly meaning to take, own, seize for one’s own or swallow up but otherwise meaning to tackle (by metonym, the territory of the prey) to invade, to approach a desired state, attach, fix, begin or be stronger than a competitor.
Line 4, OF ‘perte’ is ‘perdre’, lose, and here refers to what has been lost or damaged or wasted or else is the religious term for damnation.
The overwhelming difficulty of this quatrain is not one of place but of time!
Whilst it’s recorded that 77,000 died in Persia in mid-November 1727 due to an earthquake there is no widely-recorded event involving both Persia and Egypt in 1727 that I can find. Earthquakes do sometimes have their subterranean centre at some distance away from the area of surface damage but even if that were so how could Nostredame have known of such as that’s our modern-day knowledge, surely?
Michel wrote that he was making any comprehension of the quatrains very difficult – including by deceptions over dates. This is from my Article ‘A GENTLY ABRIDGED VERSION OF THE EPISTLE TO THE KING’
“to communicate like a “guest at a wedding party” so giving himself leeway to speak in his cups, so to speak, loosely and perhaps inaccurately, or to get his dates wrong and even to contradict hisself directly”
There seems a curious link between this quatrain’s given number III 77 and the year 1727, i.e. (1_7 = 17) (I + I = 2) attaching the last 7 will give us 1727. Should we treat this as a ruse and look at other times instead?
The Persians coveted wealthy Egypt and did hold it a few times but never for much more than a century, sometimes for much less.
In his book ‘War of the Three Gods’ Peter Crawford describes the pivotal times of Eastern Roman Emperor Heraclius (d.641AD). The Eastern Roman Empire (the cross) was at the edge of extinction by Sassanid Persia when Heraclius managed to impose a severe defeat upon them. The new Islamists then appeared to desiccate the Persian power and launch an attack on Constantinople. Epic conflicts arose between the Christian Byzantine, Sassanid Persian and Islamic empires including at Jerusalem.
Heraclius then backed the Persian General Shahrbaraz of Alexandria – the Governor of Egypt who had refused his orders to evacuate Egypt – so as to further disorient the Persian leadership and try to gain Egypt for hisself. Heraclius offered to help Shahrbaraz take the throne of Persia. By agreement in April 629 Persian troops quit Egypt and Shahrbaraz was made King of the Sassanian Empire (only to be killed by Persian nobles in 630).
So is that it? are we in April 629 and not October 1727 with the Eastern Christian Empire (the cross) dealing a little slyly with the Persians whilst simultaneously being assaulted by the new Islamic forces? I think I’ll stop there.
IN OUR TIMES
There is a modern musical performance called free-form that deliberately avoids referencing whatever came before and so is almost true improvisation. Its beginning beat is deceptive and its ending virtually unforeseeable. Its form is chaotic although in parts it is not and yet who can understand why it was ever introduced to the public? But it was and now, of course, the players will be paid and the promoters enriched whilst the audient, having suitably shelled out, will have their sense of normality permanently altered.
Although the war conditions in the Eastern Mediterranean and the Middle-East were plotted well in advance by greedy promoters, war is weaving its own ways and sometimes it feels like they will never end.
SOME RELEVANT REFERENCES ON THIS WEBSITE
The Article WATCH OUT WORLD! Part 3 contains the quatrain
Nouuelle loy terre neufue occuper
Vers la Syrie, Iudee, & Palestine:
Le grand empire barbare corruer,
Avant que Phebés son siecle determine.
New Law occupies the terra firma
Springtime in Syria, Judea and Palestine:
The great barbarian empire is to crumble,
Ere/Until the Moon has completed its calculated cycle.
The Nostradamus Quatrain III 31 IRAN ARABIA ARMENIA AND TURKEY
Aux champs de Mede, d’Arabe & d’armenie
Deux grands copies trois fois s’assemble-ront :
Pres du riuage d’Araxes la mesnie,
Du grand Soliman en terre tomberont.
At the gathering grounds of Media, Arabia and Armenia,
Two great armies shall assemble three times:
The troupe in proximity to the shores of the Araxes, The great Suleiman’s land to suffer a mighty fall/The great fall of Turkey.
The idea of appearance of an Antichrist-figure in the Middle East region is ventured in THE LATE DOLORES CANNON’S ‘ANTICHRIST ACCORDING TO NOSTRADAMUS’
The coastal fire-power of Iran is described generally in Nostradamus Quatrain II 62 MABUS BY NAME
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