1557 Lyon Du Rosne

L’an que Saturne en eaue sera conioinct,
Auecques Sol, le Roy fort & puissant:
A Reims & Aix sera receu & oingt,
Apres conquestes murtrira innocent.

The year that Saturn in water (in a Water Sign) will be conjoined,
With the Sun , the King strong and powerful:
At Reims and Aix will be received and anointed,
After conquests ‘murtrira innocent’.

1524 was the year of the great Astrological alignment in Pisces, probably a major event in the life of the young Michel deNostredame with its widespread predictions of devastating inundation everywhere Actually there was a bit of a drought which fact may even have imprinted itself onto Michel’s envisioning of the soil drying-out before the Deluge at End Time. (See the Preface to Cesar

Whereas the Sun conjuncts Saturn every year, Saturn only  passes through any particular Water Sign once in every ten years. In the first couplet of Nostradamus Quatrain VIII 48 we will find;

Saturne en Cancer,Iupiter auec Mars,
Dedans Feurier ……………………………

by which Line 1 has Saturn in Cancer and Jupiter with Mars in February although Nostredame does not confirm the Sign under which this latter conjunction occurs. Does February suggest the Sun Calendar turn from Aquarius into Pisces or is this the month of the quatrain’s ‘fulfillment’ or ‘truing’?

(See the Nostradamus Quatrain VIII 48)

Saturn entered Cancer, a further Water Sign, in 1592.

The dream of uniting France with Germany is an old and enduring one (intrinsic to the ‘whole-landmass’ greeds inherent in the ‘Great Game’, still continuing to this day). Of the three Aix candidates, Aix-en-Provence, Aix-les-Bains and Aix-la-Chapelle (in German, Aachen), only the latter has coronation connections. All German emperors  had been crowned in Aix-la-Chapelle, also a favoured residence of Charlemagne (Charles I of France, Charles I of Germany, Charles I of the Holy Roman Empire). Reims is the cathedral city where French kings were customarily anointed and crowned.

Line 1, ‘en eaue’, in water, was possibly a similar sound to ‘en haut’, in heaven. From around 1,000AD to 1,500 AD it meant body fluids including the aqua vita of gestation. Here we must presume it to mean the Zodiac water signs of Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces.

Line 2, OF ‘Auecques’ = avoeques or avoec = with/with that. It is doubtfully Aquarius (an Air sign) as has been claimed by other Nostradamus researchers.

Line 3, ‘Reims & Aix’ is seemingly a reference to French/German coronation procedure, as above.

The word ‘receu’ is commonly assumed to mean received, from OF ‘recepvoir’ but there are similar sounding OF verbs such as ‘rescure’, to rescue, and ‘resseur’, to restore moistness to the body. OF ‘oingt’ most probably means ‘anointed’ here but could mean plain ‘greased’. Nevertheless, the phrase ‘receu & oingt’ suggests ‘moistened by and received into the Church’, i.e. baptized and saved.

Line 4, ‘murtrira’, is probably derived from the OF ‘meurtrir’ that has various violent meanings from bruise or stifle to kill or assassinate. Otherwise it may be three separate words entrined as if one so as to fit with the pace of the verse.

The particle ‘mur’ is possibly ‘meut’ from mouvoir, to move, or ‘murer’, to wall-up and the particle ‘tri’ is three (but not necessarily – see the Nostradamus Quatrain III 93  SORROWFUL FOR PARIS which features the word ‘Tricast’) or it is from ‘trier’, to try/make a selection and the particle ‘ra’ is the word for a very brief drum-roll on the tambour (and ‘ra’ echoes in small the capital letters of Reims & Aix).

The expression ‘innocent/innocens’ (depending upon the Edition) could mean a babe-in-arms or else one not held blameworthy.

James V of Scotland, motto ‘In Defens’ (rhymes with ‘innocens’) was twice wed in France. His infant sons who both died in April 1541, leaving him without an immediate heir, were titled the Dukes of R-for-Rothesay and A-for-Albany. He then fathered Mary Queen of Scots who was born on 8th December 1542 but James V died young on December 14th that same year, so the newborn Mary became Queen of Scotland when she was one week old (she was also Queen of France 1559-1560 and possibly thought of herself as French as an adult having been removed there at the age of six). King James, despite a military reversal, had mustered much support for further wars with Protestant England when he died prematurely from a fever. The odd ‘murtrira innocens’, which looks at first glance to mean ‘will murder the innocents’, could refer to a death attributable neither to good nor bad behaviours, i.e. blameless, or could even – as a death followed by an innocent – refer to the natural succession to the throne by a baby.

Likewise the valorized and glorified Henry V of England was certainly famous in France which he near-totally conquered and was succeeded in 1421 by his  nine month-old son who also became the disputed King of France two months later by pre-arrangement.

One of these might be the substance of the quatrain but would fail to satisfy the Reims and Aix references. It was these that first gave rise to the accusation that this verse was faked to fit the crowning of Henry IV of France in 1589, the claimed link being astrological (see Line 1). OF ‘conquestes’ could be here in its sense of wise actions of great governance or, alternatively, the popular Henri Quatre was both a man’s man (“I rule with sword in hand, arse on saddle”) and a charmer of women, given to romantic ‘conquests’. Probably it is these plus his victories in Ivry and Arques whereupon, having gained the throne, he was pushed to the South by a rival claim as fought for by the Catholic League and obliged to fight his way up toward the capital Paris.

He had changed his faith to Catholicism long before his coronation at Chartres, and, in 1598, he enacted the Edict of Nantes, benefiting Protestants and effectively ending the civil war.

Did Nostredame slice his quatrains horizontally as well as putting them out-of-sequence? This is another of those quatrains that at first feels as if two separate couplets have been sat together, requiring something additional to round-off each of them. However, the first couplet, repeated below, of this Nostradamus Quatrain IV 86,

L’an que Saturne en eaue sera conioinct,
Auecques Sol, le Roy fort & puissant:

as well as the middle two lines of this quatrain, being

Auecques Sol, le Roy fort & puissant:
A Reims & Aix sera receu & oingt

contain the scrambled letters of the name of the assassin Francois Ravaillac.

Henri IV died the innocent victim of murder. We can also find a tag ‘le Vert galant’ in each pair. Henri was a popular ‘ladies’ man’, father to many illegitimate children.

A more phonetic version of Henri Quatre (the spelling ‘enri quatre’) is scrambled in the first couplet and in the middle two lines as well as within the last couplet.

Reims is a French cathedral city. Aix is likely Aix-la-Chapelle a.k.a. Aachen (Nostredame’s ‘A&A’ referred to elsewhere by him?) and was the coronation place of German Kings. These two together reinforce an inbetween French/German position that would suggest Charles III, Duke of Lorraine a branch of the House of Habsburg. In the event, Henri was crowned at Chartres, France. Nostredame offers us the principal contenders to the throne but does not know or doesn’t wish to tell the name of the winner. Interestingly, Nostredame’s oft-cited Chiren/Chyren looks like nothing less than an amalgamation of Ch for Chartres and ‘enri’ or ‘enry’ (Henri/Henry).

Line 3 of Nostradamus Quatrain IV 86 links the two together in the word ‘oignt’ that looks like it should mean anointed with holy ointment but could mean a kind of mix between arrayed and arraigned; the effect of being preached over as new leader of the obligated faithful.

Nostradamus researcher Jacques Halbronn complements Nostradamus Quatrain IV 86 with:


1568 Lyon Benoist Rigaud

Du bourg Lareyne paruiendront droit a Chartres
Et seront pres du pont Anthoni panse,
Sept pour la paix cautelleux comme martres
Feront entree d’armee a Paris clause.

From Bourg-la-Reine (in South Paris) they will detour to Chartres,
And near Pont d’Antony (Ile-de-France) they will swell in number:
Seven for peace as furtive as martens,
The explanation?To enter Paris under arms.
The explanation? To enter an army in at the underbelly of Paris.

Line 2, OF ‘panse’ is a belly or a swelling container

Line 3, OF ‘cautelleux’ is cautious, cunning. OF ‘martres’ are martens. (Martens are nocturnal yet sometimes active by day, silent but occasionally very noisy, timid yet aggressive.)

Line 4, OF ‘clause’ has various ‘sub’ meanings including ‘explanation’. Figuratively it might mean ‘suburb’.

Dr. Halbronn goes on to suggest that the entire Centuries VIII and IX and X are about the last decades of the Sixteenth Century and accurate enough to have been written contemporaneously, i.e. not by the prophetic Michel de Nostredame. Halbronn also draws attention to a publication dated 1590 wherein the first seven Centuries ended at VII 35. (See the Article EDITIONS OF THE CENTURIES)

T.W.M. Berkel, an expert in Nostradamus from the astrological point of view, agrees the Astrology references. He also maintains that Centuries VIII through X were strongly repressed in territories under the control of the Catholic League.

It seems likely to me that the ‘omnibus’ editions of Nostradamus in the last decades of the Sixteenth Century were editorially modified or invented to a degree although not necessarily by the Catholic Leaguers or their competitors.

Other serious authors have observed that Centuries VIII and IX seem less inspired than the seven preceding and the one following assortment of quatrains that Nostredame offered to us under misleadingly numeric chapter-headings. (The numbered quatrains for Centuries higher than X are not considered inclusive in the ‘Opera Nostradamus’ by me.)

Dr. Jacques Halbronn believes these two quatrains, both numbered 86, date from 1593 concurrent with the rivalry between Charles le Grand of Lorraine (IV 86) and Henri de Navarre (IX 86) over the French Crown.  The Catholic League’ was undecided between various candidates but then Henri trumped them all by announcing that he had ‘crossed the road to Rome’.

Halbronn also cites Nostradamus Quatrain VII 24 to defend his theory that ‘Nostradamus’ has been rewritten to support claims to the throne by the Lorraines, but I don’t find that at all. Here’s my take:


1557 Lyon Du Rosne

L’enseuely fort ira/sortira du tombeau,
Fera de chaines lier le fort du pont:
Empoysoné auec oeuf de barbeau,
Grand de lorraine par le Marquis du Pont.

Line 1, OF ‘ensevely’ is probably ‘ensevelir’, to bury or enshroud, and links with ‘enfouir’, bury or sink, to make disappear. Also, with ‘enfouler’ which seems a combination of ‘enfoncer’, to press in, with ‘refouler’, to repress.

Line 2, OF ‘fort’ is a fortification or else strength, intensity. But there is here a deliberate play on the other meaning of ‘pont’, the Pontiff, as the barbel fish (Barbus barbus) was also called the Pope.

Line 3, OF ‘empoysoné’ is from ‘empoisonner’, to throw poison into food or water or otherwise to administer poison or to feed the evil in a bad heart or soul.

(Izaac Walton in The Complete Angler mentions the possible danger of poisoning from eating the coarse river fish called the barbel and its eggs, if wrongly cooked.)

Line 4, OF ‘par’ has various meanings including by, through, very, passing and in the extreme.

The title of Marquis of Pont-à-Mousson was given by the Dukes of Bar (land of Joan of Arc) to their heir-apparent. (Just like the UK’s Prince of Wales.) The place Pont-à-Mousson is in Lorraine in North East France (but sometimes in Germany in the past). It is also conceivable that there may have been a bridge over a stream someplace called the Pont Marquis, who can say?

Charles le Grand was Duke of Lorraine from 1545.

The enshrouded one will chance out the vault,
A repressing willpower exerts out the tomb,
It will bind in chains with the strength of a Pope:
Poisoned with the eggs of a barbel,
The Great One of Lorraine is passed by the Marquis du Pont.

Some ghastly personification of death – or a call from the grave – snatches at and enchains somebody with the strength of a Pope, i.e. with that barbel’s eggs. In that sense this Nostradamus Quatrain VII 24 has Henri Navarre as the heir-apparent or ‘Marquis du Pont’ slipped past-by the belly of the Pope, so to speak, and thereby surpassing Lorraine’s claims permanently.